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Cub Cadet 106 Hood Bracket

Postby Ianb » Sat Aug 05, 2017 3:52 am

I bought my tractor partially in parts and from looking at parts diagrams there is a small bracket that screws to the top of the grill frame just under the front edge of the hood. Does anyone have a photo of which way it goes as the diagrams aernt detailed enough, and does it actually hook into the underside of the hood? Or is it just a support as my hood has nothing for it to clip onto.

The photo shows the mounting hole on the grill surround, the bracket by it is the one I am GUESSING goes there but not sure.

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Re: Cub Cadet 106 Hood Bracket

Postby JMotuzick » Sat Aug 05, 2017 6:05 am

Not home so no pictures. that's the bracket It bolts to the top hole for the voltage regulator bracket. The Flat it up and toward the engine. It does not hook to the hood but does rest under it.
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Re: Cub Cadet 106 Hood Bracket

Postby Ianb » Sat Aug 05, 2017 7:12 am

I didntr realize about the voltage regulator, I haven't looked at that yet, if you don't mind posting a picture when you are home it would be great.
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Re: Cub Cadet 106 Hood Bracket

Postby ksanders » Sat Aug 05, 2017 8:46 am

This should help
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Re: Cub Cadet 106 Hood Bracket

Postby Klapatta » Sat Aug 05, 2017 10:50 am

It can cause a rattle and place excessive wear on the hood.
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I wrapped some electrical tape around it as a cushion.
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A length of 3/4" weather strip mounted at the dash tower helps with noise reduction as well.
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Re: Cub Cadet 106 Hood Bracket and Tire Advice

Postby Ianb » Sat Aug 05, 2017 12:11 pm

Thankyou both for the pictures, once mine is cleaned up and painted I think I will use a sticky back foam pad on the bracket.

Just altered thread title, hope Mods don't mind, just didn't want to clutter forum with my questions.

I have got a used pair of 8.5x12 rear rims as mine has the narrow wheels, I am wanting to get lugs, AGs or whatever you call them. My main concern is some tires such as the Deestone have been reported to come out underside. I am looking at 23x10.50x12, in particular cheaper tires like Duro, Deestone, BKT or similar, if anyone has any pictures of theirs Tires can you post them along with the brand and the wheel width. My thinking being if Deestone are smallish in 23x10.50x12, maybe a 26x12x12 may be OK? Last question do most AG 26x12x12 fit the 106 or similar or modifications required?
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Re: Cub Cadet 106 Hood Bracket

Postby JMotuzick » Sat Aug 05, 2017 12:16 pm

That's why I love this forum 3 guys all answer the question! When one doesn't have pictures the other two do with advice too!
Editing is fine, keep up the good work! I'll let someone with good answers answer the tire questions.
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Re: Cub Cadet 106 Hood Bracket

Postby Ianb » Sat Aug 05, 2017 2:02 pm

Yep, posted 5am your time and within few hours I had my answer
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Re: Cub Cadet 106 Hood Bracket

Postby ksanders » Sat Aug 05, 2017 6:29 pm

We're all here to help each other :beer:
I just happened to read the post minutes before walking out past my tractor that had that bracket. Sorry I don't have pictures to compare on the tire question but I do have 26x12x12 deestones on my 982 Super if I remember what I bought anymore. Can't say I look at them anymore. I can get a picture with a tape measure of them if you like but not on a smaller 126 for comparison. They are smaller than something like a firestone but I can't imagine going under a 106 and looking right. The difference in size just getting a 23x10.50 deestone vs other brand 10.50 probably will never be noticed, especially since the 106 only came with 23x8.50 at the time. A deestone 10.50 in my opinion would be a sharp and inexpensive choice.

Btw, the 982 rear tires snuck into one of my pictures
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Re: Cub Cadet 106 Hood Bracket

Postby Ianb » Sat Aug 05, 2017 6:59 pm

Thanks if you dont mind measuring the Deestone's height and width it would be good, I will try to find the picture, bit it was a comparison of the Deestone, Carlisle and Duro possibly in 23x10.50 and the Deestones appeared significantly smaller so I just wondered how the 26x12s compared to say a larger 23x10.50? But like you say it maybe too much, which in my opinion can look worse than a bit small. I am just after some tires to fill the arches and most importantly look good!!

Not my photo, I found it on another forum and saved it, so I hope the owner doesn't mind? Maybe the tires aernt fitted to rims and therefore may not be a true representation of their size? The second photo seems to show less of a size difference between the Carlilse and Deestone??

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Re: Cub Cadet 106 Hood Bracket

Postby ksanders » Sun Aug 06, 2017 7:20 am

Okay, I got these measured this morning. My 682 has 23x10.50-12 goodyears measuring 9.5 wide and 23.5 tall. My 73 has 23x8.50-12 goodyears that are 22 tall and 8 wide. The 982 has 26x12-12 new Deestones measuring 10.5 wide and 24.5 tall. These are all approximate as I'm measuring around mounted wheel weights but really close. That being said, the deestones are only 1" taller and wider than the original 10.50 goodyears on my 682... and those are used tires.
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Re: Cub Cadet 106 Hood Bracket

Postby ksanders » Sun Aug 06, 2017 7:38 am

I went ahead and pulled these out for a comparison because despite 1" sounding minimal, the tires look way different side by side. Should make for a much more informed decision vs just measurements. They're lined up in the front by the way
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Re: Cub Cadet 106 Hood Bracket

Postby Rmowl » Sun Aug 06, 2017 7:40 am

Took some pictures of ags on some of my tractors. The 23x10.50 Deestones on a 126 are about 9" wide compared to 10.5" on carlisles which are mounted to the red 682. I like the deestones especially the front tri ribs. I really like these new HI-RUN 23x10.50 ags I got from walmart.com, about $140 delivered, they are on a 782 tiller tractor and also are 10.5", I am getting more of these tires. I have some Goodyear 26x12 ags on a 982 look about same width just considerably taller
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Re: Cub Cadet 106 Hood Bracket

Postby Ianb » Sun Aug 06, 2017 7:46 am

Thankyou for measuring the tires, its really useful, please excuse my lack of knowledge, but does the 982 have the 8 1/2" wide rear wheel rim? I will have to get my tape measure out and see if the 26x12x12 Deestones might fit.

Off topic but could you tell me what the shaft/lever across the from of the frame just behind the grill is for, I guess it is to do with the deck? Thanks
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Re: Cub Cadet 106 Hood Bracket

Postby Ianb » Sun Aug 06, 2017 7:49 am

Just seen all your photos after my last post, thankyou both very much for going to the effort of taking them, they really do help to see the differences.

Rmowl - Does the 682 have wider rims than the 126, do you think that could be the cause of some of the difference in width as the Carlisle appear to have a flatter tread?

Does the 126 and 682 have the same rear fender and frame assembly/spacing, in other words if a wheel/tire fits a 682 it will fit on a 126?
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Re: Cub Cadet 106 Hood Bracket

Postby Rmowl » Sun Aug 06, 2017 8:08 am

Yes the wheels will interchange. The ones on the 126 were meant for a 23x8.50 which is a 7" rim and the ones on the 682 I think are 8.5" rims for the 23x10.50. Also that lever is your pto lever, has a fiber button that engages/disengages the mechanical pto, linkage ties it all together and on a 106 it's the chrome handle on left side when sitting on tractor
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Re: Cub Cadet 106 Hood Bracket

Postby Ianb » Sun Aug 06, 2017 8:41 am

Thanks, makes sense, I am new to Cubs and mine came like a box of Lego!!
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Re: Cub Cadet 106 Hood Bracket

Postby ksanders » Sun Aug 06, 2017 8:47 am

Looks like the pto lever had a bronze button on it that took a beating. Your front pto on the motor is likely in need of rebuild seeing that and much easier to do before putting the motor in. At the very least I doubt it's adjusted right or the pto lever was out of adjustment. Either way that button needs replaced and adjustments checked before engaging a mower deck.

The 982 has bigger rims. I think 10" wide or 10.5" wide. Typically your rim is an inch or two narrower than the tire. Like the 7" rim taking an 8.50 tire. You can squeeze a bigger tire on a smaller rim but it never looks quite right in my opinion.
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Re: Cub Cadet 106 Hood Bracket

Postby Klapatta » Sun Aug 06, 2017 11:21 am

Firestone 8.5s take me where I need to go.
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Miller Tire should still have them
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Re: Cub Cadet 106 Hood Bracket

Postby Ianb » Sun Aug 06, 2017 2:04 pm

Although I am keen to get big fat wide rear tires those firestones look good on your tractor, seem to give it a purposful, tough look, maybe because they are more similar proportions of a full size tractor's tires. I also like the detailing on the lug ends/sidewall.

Thanks for the info on the PTO lever, unfortunately my deck is in a bad way so I have no intention of refurbishing it, at least I know for certain I can remove it. I am even having doubts as to whether or not the original engine will be going back in, don't get me wrong I am hugely envious of you guys with beautiful original tractors, but in the UK Cub Cadets are kind of thin on the ground so I had to buy what I could find, this also means all parts will need sourcing from the US which gets costly, which is why I am leaning towards a change of engine, unless the current one requires no rebuilding.

My current plans are to work my way through the tractor, cleaning/repairing/adjusting what I can, whilst putting the engine bits together to see if it works, while also keeping a watch out for a good value secondhand motor that will fit without altering the original profile to much.
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Re: Cub Cadet 106 Hood Bracket

Postby Klapatta » Sun Aug 06, 2017 2:57 pm

I see your just due South of Holderness, lovely area. About 2 hour 20 minutes from me.
Have a very nice K301, Carb is off in shot but its all there.
Very strong runner, new clutch too. Send PM if interested.
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Re: Cub Cadet 106 Hood Bracket

Postby Klapatta » Sun Aug 06, 2017 3:00 pm

Whoops, your in Lymington, Hampshire not Lymington, New Hampshire.
My bad, sorry :?
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Re: Cub Cadet 106 Hood Bracket

Postby Ianb » Mon Aug 07, 2017 1:34 am

What a shame, wish I was closer, would have been perfect as I need a clutch as well.
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Re: Cub Cadet 106 Hood Bracket

Postby Klapatta » Mon Aug 07, 2017 11:13 am

Yes, myself as well. I apologize for the haste in my post, call it dyslexia on my part if you will- I happen to be heading out to the general direction that I had mentioned on this side of the pond within the next couple of weeks and probably could have made room and delivered it along my way. I have been thinning out some of my unnecessary parts collection to folks with needs on a personal basis over the last couple of years due to of my loss of interest in the whole swap meet thing. Sorry that I could not help.
I'm well aware of the tractor collection experience in the UK and it is a very interesting and unique thing, it is sad to say what you may be looking for is largely here. There are suppliers here with good reputation, their willingness to ship overseas I cannot state, that you would have to inquire for yourself.
Wishing you all the best in your project and please keep us updated and informed and good luck :beer:
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Re: Cub Cadet 106 Hood Bracket

Postby Klapatta » Mon Aug 07, 2017 11:20 am

Oh one other thing. Be wary of posting images from other web sites. They may not like that.
They may be copyrighted.
I know that I don't like it when someone posts mine on theirs. ;)
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Re: Cub Cadet 106 Hood Bracket

Postby Ianb » Mon Aug 07, 2017 5:09 pm

I have taken onboard what you are saying, I have removed the images as the last thing I want to do is upset anyone.

Your knowledge of tractor collecting in UK certainly is more than mine, the limit of mine is Wheel Horse tractors seem to be the favorite and people are asking crazy money for them on EBay, whether or not they get it I don't know.

I think the reason I liked the Cub Cadets was their reputation for being tough and partly because I thought I would never find one, it even crossed my mind to purchase one in the US and get it shipped over, yes it sounds mad to me too now!!! Then one day I came across the one I have for starting bid £75 (~$100-110 not sure) and no one else bid so I got one.

I am hoping I can sort the engine, if so I only really need a clutch as I assume when taking it apart they broke the friction plate around one of the holes and lost the antirattle springs. I am unsure of the condition of the other 2 plates that clamp the friction disk as not taken it all out, but I think it is called the throwout bearing hanger pivot seems to have torn out its mounts as there is a lot of movement when pressing the pedal, hopefully this is just a case of welding/making new pivot.

When fitting a new clutch is it advisable to go for the genuine IH one, a reproduction similar to original or an aftermarket one something like this


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Re: Cub Cadet 106 Hood Bracket

Postby Klapatta » Tue Aug 08, 2017 12:02 am

Oh, that would be too much spring for a stock machine. A Kevlar disc is hardly needed too, stock or a waterjet reproduction would work just fine. You should be able to do better price wise as well I would suspect.
On this site home page check the parts supplier section listed toward the bottom. Patton Acres or Ray Weaver should be able to fit you with a proper used clutch assembly and related hardware for starters. Check into Extreme Motorworks as well. While not a member of this group I seem to recall that CC Specialties will ship overseas, the web page is not in front of me, just Google it and it would come right up. The latter two have a very comprehensive web site. All these vendors all have a good reputation regarding product and delivery in my opinion, there are others listed here as well.
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Re: Cub Cadet 106 Hood Bracket

Postby Ianb » Tue Aug 08, 2017 1:39 am

Thanks, I will have a look at the sites you suggested.
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Re: Cub Cadet 106 Hood Bracket

Postby Klapatta » Wed Aug 09, 2017 11:38 pm

Here is a publication directly from England that I find both highly informative and entertaining. As it can be had at my local Tractor Supply store I would think any good magazine shop or bookstore would have it or be able to get it for you. A well written wide range of topics are covered relating to the goings on in England, Scotland, and Ireland along with some occasional mention of Germany and France and so on. Notice that I chose one with a red thing on it to stay on topic. :)
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Multiple parts suppliers of all brands are listed throughout and the most all of the images in articles are largely displayed in full color. This particular issue is 168 pages of reading.
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This may well be a source of locating parts for your Cub Cadet, that you would have to check into.

There seems to be one article each month discussing a machine based in America as well.
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All in all, it make for good reading from the UK!
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Re: Cub Cadet 106 Hood Bracket

Postby Ianb » Thu Aug 10, 2017 7:24 pm

I have actually bought that a few times for my dad when they had an article on the Mercedes MB-Trac,as he has one as his tractor project/toy. I will see if he still has it, thankyou.
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