Wide frame vs spread frame lift yoke ?

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Wide frame vs spread frame lift yoke ?

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:?: I'm confused...I can see from photos that a narrow frame lift yoke won't fit a 108 because gee it's narrower but, would the actual cast lift yoke from say a 1250 fit a 108? From what I can see in photos is that the 108 should have a shaft clear thru the yoke with cotter pins on each end and the 1250 would have bolts that fit in each end of the yoke but the cast part looks to me to be the same length. I'm still looking for one to fit a 108. Thanks for any input you can share to help my ignorance. :|
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The actually cast part is the same for the wide frames... partway through they switched from the 5/8 rod to the 2 frankenstein bolts.... specifically at (Serial No. 616145 ) The bolts are available separate from one of our vendors. For a 108 just get some 5/8 stock and drill 2 holes for cotter pins and poof!
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Thanks for the help. Jim and I talked this thru a couple times since my post as well. Without having one in hand I was afraid to buy without being sure. These cast yokes seem to be getting pricier everywhere I see them. Should have picked one up last year when $75 got the whole caboodle dropped at the door :(
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I have all the measurements to build the cast piece out of pipe and some flat stock. I think I'm going to make my own using schedule 40 pipe. I think it will be a lot more forgiving than cat iron, not a big fan of cast anything

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elbertjolley wrote:I have all the measurements to build the cast piece out of pipe and some flat stock. I think I'm going to make my own using schedule 40 pipe. I think it will be a lot more forgiving than cat iron, not a big fan of cast anything
When you do it please post pics as you build it . been thinking on the same line
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I don't know if I'd trust SCH40 pipe. There is a lot of force on that part. I'd maybe think about something a little heavier if you can.

I always figured if I ever made one I'd start with solid stock about the same size as the casting and bore it.
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Now that brings up still more questions I've had about these things. I've never thought a casting was such a good idea (strength-wise) for and odd shaped fulcrum and yet that is what they obviously used for several different versions for many years. Has anybody seen these break :?: Just how much or what quality (tensile strength) metal should I be looking to use when I start :?: Square or round :?:
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My thoughts .. if you can picture this 1 1/2 square stock ( heavy tubing like a light duty trailer hitch) cut one to fit inside frame width wise.
weld ends on it and drill center to accept attaching bolt /pin/rod ?

Another piece for the lifting fulcrum would be notched out maybe an inch By 1 1/2 for two reasons give more surface area to weld , and give it the off set appearance the cast ones have .
use the solid hitch bar for that receiver to do the lifting?????????
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My cousin had one break but I forget what the conditions were when it happened.

Mild steel should be plenty strong as long as its near the same size as the cast sections and is gusseted properly.
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This is what I done.2 in. square tubing notched and welded together and pressed pipe in the tubing
with my press(a 12 pound slegde).It looks a whole lot better in person because it has silver spray paint,slag,grease,and a few welds that have to be ground down on it.
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There is a peice of 5/8 ID pippe in the top coner and welded in.
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1978 1450 with IH Hubcaps
1975 1650SGT work in progress
1974 129 with sleeve hitch
1974 108 (under resto)
1974 108
1200 parts
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Here are some pics of it almost done
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Well here is the finished product.
It ain`t to pretty but it sure is strong.
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1978 1450 with IH Hubcaps
1975 1650SGT work in progress
1974 129 with sleeve hitch
1974 108 (under resto)
1974 108
1200 parts
Brinly 8in plow ,12" in. plow, disc & rear blade, 2 44a,50a

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Looks good to me Jed !!!!
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