repowering a 782

[allenpezo]

i am debating on which would be the better engine to replace the kt-17 honda gx 630 or kohler command 23 both drop in kits are the same price what are the pros and cons of both engines i use it for tilling and plowing not alot of mowing any advice would be helpful thanks

[ReicheP]

I have a honda GX 610 in my 682 and it's a good fit and easy installation.

Info from the web: http://farmallcub.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=11890

http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/cub- ... ement.html

[allenpezo]

thanks for the reply i have read your install before honda has changed the engine design its alittle different from your 610 but somewhat the same i have no experience on v-twin hondas only the single cylinder ones i have some experience with commands its a hard choice between the two

[ReicheP]

Here is another old post showing the change over.

http://www.farmallcub.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=14796

The ONLY problem I have had with the GX610 is not running because of water in the gas tank and that's common on the 82's left out side with no cover.

[allenpezo]

thanks for posting that it looked good it looks like honda is winning this one anybody running commands in these

[junderwood]

Allen, My vote is for the Command. I have a 23 hp in my 1872 and one of my Greene machines too. I also have a couple more on the shelf waiting to be installed in something when I find the right project. I just mowed with the 1872 for the first season and the Command is a monster that sips fuel. No comparison to the 782 with the KT I mowed with last year. Another deciding factor for me is that Cub Cadet had them installed from the factory in some of the later model unit like the 1864. The Command gets my Vote.

[vince_o]

I like both engs. The command I am more fimilure with than the honda. The command is easy on fuel, parts are readdly avalable. The honda parts are cheap, and I rarly have to work on them.

[allenpezo]

well guys after looking at the new gx hondas its without a doubt my choice they have forged steel cranks forged steel rods with inserts bearings on both ends of the crankshaft 1 piece cast iron cylinders with no head gaskets very well built i do thank all of you for the posts and pictures i just didnt want to make a 2000.00 mistake

[allenpezo]

i need alittle help with the wiring on this honda i have 2 wires left from the voltage regulator i dont know where to put them and what to do with the 2 wire factory harness plug i took the solonoid out beside the battery and ran a new positive cable to the starter post and a wire from the key switch start post to the starter solonoid spade thanks

[vince_o]

Can you post a pic of them or the colors. You DONT want to send 12 volts to the coils right off the bat and screw them up. If I were at work I could look up the manual for it. I would think that there is only one wire to charge back the batt of the V/R. Theres probly low oil shut down on it, carb selonid needs power.

[allenpezo]

vince there is a solid white and a black with yellow stripe coming out of the regulator harness and the 3 wire engine harness has a red-white-black wires in the plug i put the 2 gray wires from the stator to the 2 grays and put the black wire with the eyelet to ground i can get some pictures if needed the oil wire is seperate and i will put it on a light

[allenpezo]

got my cub all finished up the honda runs great

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[mtomac]

Looks good. Where did you get the honda repower kit from?
How much?
Any issues?

[allenpezo]

kit came from repower specialist in Oregon good people to work with it was 2095.00 delievered no problems at all smoothest running engine I ever owned has tons of power and burns hardly any gas

[Harlee62]

I need to put a new engine in my 682 Hydro.
I have a line on a Honda GX620 for a real good price but need to know what is needed to put it in my cub cadet?
Are there any adapters, wiring diagrams available?
Any instructions?

[dag1450]

Hey welcome Lee! I have not done this Honda engine swap but I think a couple guys on here have....hope they check in today for you. If u don't mind me asking ....just so I can have the full story...is this Honda engine new and what is considered a good price ? Im not sure if the Honda engines r like the Kohler where there r 10 different versions of all the same ....say, Magnum 20. Lots of different crankshaft options. Mostly that would affect your PTO clutch install.....so if this tractor is used for mowing that is a big deal. Just some food for thought. Keep us posted. Good luck. Dave

[Tom Scott]

Lee, Welcome! I am not familiar with the Honda's but with the Kohlers they are made to different specs for different manufacturers, as Dave says. I don't see how the Honda's could all be made the same, so you want to be sure it is the correct version to fit both the driveline and pto end.

Our Paul R. might have some insight on this for the Honda.

[ReicheP]

I have had a GX610 in my 682 for years now. No complaints with the motor. I purchased the motor with adapters from Small Engine Warehouse.

http://www.smallenginewarehouse.com/Ite ... -Category/

You'll need an adapter from the crank to the drive shaft, motor adapter plate and a reducer bushing to mount the PTO and PTO adapter to the engine. Choke and throttle controls need to rerouted.

http://www.smallenginewarehouse.com/IH6 ... ry=1709370

Install instructions and parts list images attached.

The following discussion is what I used during my installation, it is quite good. It used to be featured article but the thread was locked and shoved into oblivion because it wasn't pure Cub Cadet.

http://farmallcub.com/phpBB2/viewtopic. ... 4e25ef2f39

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