new throw out bearing
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new throw out bearing
I need a new throw out bearing for my 126. I was wondering if anyone knows if Napa or tractor supply has something that would work. If not I'll order one, but I was looking to save some pennies if someone has used something with good luck
Thanks
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- Farmallgray
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Re: new throw out bearing
You and everyone else. Cub Cadet has an exclusive contract on that bearing with the manufacturer.
Some guys have found a substitute angular contact bearing and made it work, but it isn't a true thrust bearing. I haven't heard any reports on how long they will last though. I'm trying one in my son's puller, but I'm still in the building phase of it.
Some guys have found a substitute angular contact bearing and made it work, but it isn't a true thrust bearing. I haven't heard any reports on how long they will last though. I'm trying one in my son's puller, but I'm still in the building phase of it.
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Re: new throw out bearing
While I shall continue to use the genuine part I personally don't define it as a true thrust bearing. It is actually nothing more than a ball bearing with an extended length inner race with a circular stamped steel thrust plate that is pressed and crimped over the bearings outer race on the fork face side. That stamped plate does not make truce face contact with the bearing balls held within, rather it clamps to the bearings outer race only. An automotive style throw out bearing uses a face race that directly accepts load against the rotating balls.
I have been looking for something better for years pouring through bearing books and have yet to come across a true thrust bearing that could be used as a direct replacement however ones that could possibly apply came in at more costly than the factory part and required some modification.
The factory bearing will provide years of faithful service used under stock application.
I have been looking for something better for years pouring through bearing books and have yet to come across a true thrust bearing that could be used as a direct replacement however ones that could possibly apply came in at more costly than the factory part and required some modification.
The factory bearing will provide years of faithful service used under stock application.
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Re: new throw out bearing
I'll stick with stock then. Just thought if there was something a little cheaper that worked I could pick it up this week. I'll have to wait until next week when I can get to the dealer then. Thanks guys
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Re: new throw out bearing
I found an aftermarket 1 a while back. It was exact except the inner race was a little longer. I think it's the same 1 that is being sold on flee bay with a clutch disc. I think it was only like 12 or 15 dollars. I'll see if I can find the part #.
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Re: new throw out bearing
Rich has some at a good price
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Re: new throw out bearing
The substitute bearing I was talking about is SKF 204RY2.
Ken, Have you even taken a stock one apart? Anyone else? I'd like to see what they look like. I often thought the shell was a seperate part. But I had thought they were a true thrust bearing.
Ken, Have you even taken a stock one apart? Anyone else? I'd like to see what they look like. I often thought the shell was a seperate part. But I had thought they were a true thrust bearing.
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Re: new throw out bearing
I have. I think there was something different of the load side of the race. I think it was more cupped. The 1 I got from the bearing supply was almost exact except for the outer case that Todd mentioned and the inner race was a little longer. I have used it and it works good. I just sold the tractor so I dont know how long it would last.
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Re: new throw out bearing
I had one apart once thanks to an 800 pound clutch spring. They don't hold up for very long under those pressures. One guy told me to expect five hours run time.
There's got to be a way to build a better mouse trap and really why anyone from the pullers suppliers can't come forward with one I don't know why other than cost limitations.
My thinking in the past has been there's got to be some way a bearing like this could be fitted with a shrink fitted three stepped sleeve that would act as both a pressure face and a pilot. The problem being is a bearing like this can cost a hundred bucks
There's got to be a way to build a better mouse trap and really why anyone from the pullers suppliers can't come forward with one I don't know why other than cost limitations.
My thinking in the past has been there's got to be some way a bearing like this could be fitted with a shrink fitted three stepped sleeve that would act as both a pressure face and a pilot. The problem being is a bearing like this can cost a hundred bucks
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Re: new throw out bearing
Ill ask some of my pulling friends up in charlotte what they are using. They have mutable tractors with the red and yellow springs and have no problems.
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Re: new throw out bearing
I have done the trick of drilling a small hole in the dust shield, cleaning them out, then injecting new grease in and sealing the hole with RTV. I have been running one of these on my diesel
puller for several years now. It is one of the older style though.
puller for several years now. It is one of the older style though.
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Re: new throw out bearing
I've done what Todd did several times. Worked good.
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Re: new throw out bearing
Seems to me somewhere along the line I noticed two styles, so then the older ones were more rugged?
Ditto on the needle injection trick, the one on my 102 has been holding up great going on five years now and that one sees a whole lot of backing up to push snow.
After over 30 years the grease inside them turns into clay.
Ditto on the needle injection trick, the one on my 102 has been holding up great going on five years now and that one sees a whole lot of backing up to push snow.
After over 30 years the grease inside them turns into clay.
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Re: new throw out bearing
Ken,
I can't really say one is better than the other. I just figured that like everything else, they don't make them like they used to. But on the other hand, an older one has more chance of being worn out.
I can't really say one is better than the other. I just figured that like everything else, they don't make them like they used to. But on the other hand, an older one has more chance of being worn out.
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