2 stage blower for cub 127?

[wicub127]

Anyone ever modify any 2 stage blowers to an older cub like a 127?

[dag1450]

Welcome Chris ! I cant say i have ever seen this but im sure it been tryed over the yrs If u r talking 2 stage like a model 450 45" I see many hurdles to over come to make this work. Here r just a couple random thoughts. Pure HP.....I dont see the 12 or even 14 single cylinder having enough. 127 is a narrow frame, i believe all 2 stage were for wide. PTO and belt size width r different. I have a few two stage 450 blowers and the size and mass of them r very different than the single stage blowers intended for your 127. If i were u i would try a single stage .....u might b surprised at how good they work, or if your r set on a 2 stage......buy another tractor and start a collection. Good luck Dave

[dag1450]

I just saw a newer( box store) cub cadet on CL with 42 inch 2 stage blower mounted. they said the tractor is 13 HP. I dont know.... maybe it can be done.....some how? Dave

[Tom Scott]

Chris - If you do some searching on this site, you will see that the Cub single stage that were meant for your tractor work great. In perfect conditions, a two stage will throw the snow further, but that is not usually necessary to clear a driveway.

The Cub two stage blowers are real heavy and I still have to use lots of counterweight even on a Super; lots = about 450 pounds for my steep hills. Although I haven't used a single stage, from the posts I have seen, I suspect that they work better in some of the slushier snow that can pack a two stage spiral solid. I know all about packing the spirals...

[wicub127]

Thanks for the comments. I have a single stage on it now and it does work pretty well. Mounting a 2 stage has always been something I have wanted to try.

[Klapatta]

Chris-
Nice set up ! That sounds like a lot of work so why bother ?
The key to getting a good discharge with a single stage is keeping the thrower loaded with snow and that Kohler grunting !
It's much easier to do with a hydro as the speed can be varied unlike my 126 gear drive but I use second and my clutch foot a lot
For optimum performance a coating of Slip Plate inside the auger body and discharge chute helps a lot- I can't think of even trying without the stuff.
Hey, it ain't Winter yet - what are we talking about this for ?

[dag1450]

No chains?

[Klapatta]

Chains are good
Chains are my friend.

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If your not tossing it into the wires there's something wrong
Sure wish I had a Cozy Cab

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I had this miserable little incident in my driveway 12:30 at night a couple days ago- I got yay far and then started going back down.
Into the ditch. Rather abruptly. Triple A got me out at 4:45AM. After mopping up with the 102 I went to bed at 7AM.

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I keep telling myself that Spring is right around the corner !

[SWilliams]

Single stage works better than a 2 stage in heavy wet crap because it self cleans better. In "normal" snow they work about the same, except the 2 stage will throw farther and can work a bit faster. 2 stage has the advantage of needing less power though and works the engine less. 2 stage are also easier to scale up due to the fan being the only high speed part.

[JMech]

Two stage does not take less power. It takes more. Far more. I've got both. Even ran both on the same machine. No comparison.


I see no reason why you can't put a 2 stage on. But you won't have enough power.

[Dave C]

I installed a 364 2 stage blower on a 147 many many many years ago. it worked great. I was very happy with it, it worked well. It was better than 15 years ago but i remember it didnt lack for power. Not sure how a 12 HP would work running one.

Its my opinion that the 364 blowers are easier to work with as they have 2 tubes that run to the rear of the tractor for mounting and they lift in the center. The modifacations were pretty minimal.

I think a 450 would be a bit tougher cause they are designed for the 82 series.... fitting on a narrow frame would be challenging. A 450 would prob go on a wide frame or QL much easier.

For the type of snow we get here in CT being so close to the ocean the single stage blowers just dont cut it. When i went out to attack the 36 inches we got a few years back.... the 450 on the 2072 just ate it up. A single stage would have really had a hard time..... but hey everyone has there own thing they like....

I may have pictures of the 147 with the 364 ill look

[JMech]

Sure you don't mean a 350 blower? I can't find any listing of a 364.....
What did the "364" fit originally?

[Tom Scott]

No, he means 364...

The 364 was the forerunner to the 450. It is listed a little goofy in the parts look ups. The components are in three different files. The easiest way to find them all is to look up the 982 and scroll to the bottom to see the attachments. Unlike most other attachments it is listed by the full model
number, 190-364-100.

Link to 982 index page, scroll to bottom for attachments: http://www.partstree.com/parts/?lc=Cub+Cadet&mn=982

[SWilliams]

Manual and parts list for the 364

Snow Blower 364 - 772-3497.pdf

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[Klapatta]

Dave brings up a good point regarding the limitations of the QA series, given more than 16 inches or so the unit is going to be in for a real workout.
Notice in this pic that other than the chute you can't even see it anymore and snow is starting to climb over the top of the thrower

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[l palma]

Ken,
Looks like you need inflatable snow globe to get in.You know the ones you see as lawn ornaments.Remove the fake snow,get inside,plug it in and instant cab!!!

[dag1450]

Lew.... this what u made me think of. Good times with the "bubble boy"!

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[dag1450]

Good times Ken! Blizzard of 96 was the only time the snow was falling over the top of the qa36. North of philly i think we had about 30 inches. I think that was the year i got my blower... i was shocked how good that single stage worked. Good times! Dave

[JMech]

Thanks Tom. I remember that blower now. I forget about it, and it's model number. Kind of rare really. Don't see too many of them.

[Jlaws]

I've got a QA42 snowblower myself and understand that if you get say over 16 inches of snow , that some snow is going to tumble over the top of the thrower .
Has anyone ever made a top angled extension to raise the front height of the QA36 or QA42 to funnel deeper snow into the auger ?
I realize that you'd probably have to go slower for deep snow , but I also know that throwers throw further when force fed a little ....LOL

Where I live anything over 10 inches is a real rarity , so it wouldn't make sense for me , but I can also see that if I lived in a area that got a lot of deep lake effect snow I'd probably be doing some testing ..

[dag1450]

Jess...i think IH did that with the cwxx. I have not seen one in person or to know if they work. Dave

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