Well its too cold to work out in the shop and im too cheap to heat the whole thing for such small projects. So i had to find stuff in the basement. I have had these blades painted for some time now and just got the hardware plated this fall. So i thought this would b a perfect weekend job. The older blade was black but had a little rust on it when i got it. I have seen one or two over the years painted white and really thought it looked more IH than the black. Since it was a little rough i did not feel bad changing it from the stock black. I blasted it and painted it the 935 white. The newer of the two i found in very good shape, but still gave it a nice semi gloss black paint job. I will just go though some assembly shots.... as pics r better than words. U will see i like to grease EVERYTHING before it goes together!
Dont worry guys....they r sitting on carpet
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The white is going to look sweet!
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greasing bolts
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greasing parts.lol
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Dave
Looking good!
I have a favor though.... Before you finsh assembly could you take some mesurents of the "lader"? Basicly eveyrhing in the last picture. Mine is missing these parts and maybe more with some good mesurments I'm sure I could make my own! I'm not sure what else I need but give me a few days or a few weeks, it's to cold out there.... And I'll take a look at what else I might need.
Joe
Got a little more done last night while the 4 inches of snow was falling outside. I have no idea what year they started making these plow blades and what yr they finished..... but i do see subtle differences between the two that i have. Maybe someone could weigh in on what they think that adjustable bolt on top is for....cause i dont see a use for it at all
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The bolt is important, it takes the slop out of the pivot assembly. Important to get the slop out or the pivot pin can jump out of the strap. The end of the bolt will ride against the pivot assembly and is an area you will grease as well, after you get done crying at the paint it scrapes away there. That is, if they actually ever leave your basement Haban blade museum.
You might try using one one day, they work really well...
Well Tom....if u r correct on that bolt being taken down to prevent slop in the main pivot.....which is the only thing that makes sense. It seems kinda counter productive.....if u have that bolt rub the pivot and u hit something with any speed (and maybe break your nose) The shock will then transfer up thought the bolt and push off the very strap its try to keep on. IDK. This only means one thing.......these blades will not see the light of day! I decided that as soon as u said "scratch the paint" Forget it.....NOT WORTH IT!
Oh yea....that museum crack.....that was low!........... U know i have a disease.
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Ok..Ok, The white one might get used next year if all goes according to plan with the paving this summer. So im about as far as i can go with these blades...until the install on the tractor. Last few things are the wear edge, skid shoes, and pivot to blade rod. The manual calls out a plate to back up the skid shoes nuts but neither of mine had this plate, so i used washers. One skid shoe had to be removed to install this long pin as that 5/16 thick shoes would not allow proper alignment of pin to slide in. The manual calls for washers on each side then cotter pins installed, but i had no room for washers....and really they would b redundant anyway as there r big washers welded right on the blade. I think i took some pics before disassemble ...but i cant find them. idk
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Thanks John. Sometimes i wish i was in the paving business.....with government hand outs to make-works jobs......anyway, no i want to pave my long lane this fall. I have a couple box culverts to get in, expand the parking area, enlarge the entrance off the road, and maybe install about 100 feet of perforated pipe under the center in a lower area. Oh....but wait.....does this all cost money....then i need to find that first.
Let see a pic of this "ugly" yellow blade u speak of just kidding. Dave
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That yellow looks real GOOD John! I mean really.....where did the black come from anyway? Every other cub attachment was ether white or yellow! Who does black! Dave
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dag1450 wrote:That yellow looks real GOOD John! I mean really.....where did the black come from anyway? Every other cub attachment was ether white or yellow! Who does black! Dave
I got a new brinly 10" moldboard plow a couple years ago.I have only used it once so its not even broke in yet.I have even thought about painting over the black paint on it.I won't but i have thought about it
Yellow, white or black, none of them look out of place to me. I only like the black because I know it was factory, but honestly I like lighter colors on everything, white or yellow. Much easier to see and work on things that are lighter colors. If you want to try to appease the semi-correct police, attachments up to the pto change in the Cyclops run were white and then yellow after the large pto introduction. But, bottom line, if you like it, it's fine.
Dave and I like to poke at each other, but I have to say he has done another fabulous paint project. Dave, you are a painting machine. It's not just the paint, Dave makes sure they go back together properly and repaired if needed.
Do you have the hydraulics for both? I am assuming so, because I didn't notice any manual angling hardware.
Thanks Tom for the kind words . As for angle stuff, I would show pics but...they r resting quietly, so lets just say "what the Haban museum has...stays in the Haban museum" Dave
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What have u guys done for cutting edges or wear edge? one of mine is pretty low. I do know a guy with a cnc...maybe i will give him a call to see how big of a deal to make a few. Thanks Dave
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Not cheap, but probably can't get the square holes punched/laser cut for cheaper unless you order many. I am surprised Xtrememotorworks hasn't jumped on this one yet. Have they been flipped yet? Also, for museum use, they will probably last awhile...
As for angling...
dag1450 wrote:As for angle stuff, I would show pics but...they r resting quietly, so lets just say "what the Haban museum has...stays in the Haban museum" Dave
I speak pretty fluent dag, so I think I can interpret. What this really means is: "I haven't had time yet to paint the cylinders and Armor-All the hoses. I take painting so seriously that I would never consider showing the unfinished cylinders in this painting thread."
Ouch.....that cutting edge is steep. I did some looking into a poly cutting edge but the bottom line is I think the steel would be best for a blacktop drive. Now if u have pavers or concrete poly prolly would b a good choice. I still have to look into making a steel edge. I mean really all it is.....is a piece of steel 3x54 w some holes. Here u go Tom.......u don't speak dag...u speak jive.lol. I bubble wrapped a rusty old cylinder.......
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Mcmaster-car sells garage bolts for round holes i forget the size of the bit needed but it's like 3 sizes bigger then the three size. The square is replaced by a splined section. I have a set on the "home made" 54" blade on my 1811 as they where the only longer set of bolts i had on hand when the new cutting edge went on. I had plenty of the stock blots but needed 1/2 more thread as a patch and a 1/2 thick cutting edge was used.
Joe that sounds great! I'll make u a deal.....u post a pic of those bolts and I'll get u those measurements. Lol . I called my local steel supply...about $12 for a piece of steel 3x60x3/16 thick. Now if those bolts work.....the whole thing might cost under $20 bucks. I can handle that!
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hows this?
a bag of 25 is about $12 i'm not sure they are really meant for steel but i have used them with good results just make the hoe a bit bigger and suck the bolt into it. this will make the splines in the cutting edge i had to drill the plow itself out too as the splines are bigger then the 3/16 thick cutting edge. actually after looking at the spec's they are over 1/2 long...
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ok Joe....garage DOOR bolts.....i will have to think on that. How hard can a square hole be.......really. Black smiths make them all the time with a hammer and a flame???
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I replaced my cutting edge with a piece of 1/2 x 6 x 55 inch flat bar. It strengthens the blade and lasts much longer than the original cutting edge. Just drill round holes and put hex bolts in it. It plows the same and can still be flipped.
you guys laugh they work! or as also suggested just use a normal hex head bolt it will keep the cutting edge right in place and will only collect a small amount of snow....
Dave
thanks that will help... Any idea on the bolt spacing for either end? I'd really like to find a factory "ladder" but i'm guessing they are hard to find....
Dave - Don't know if you have chosen bolts yet, but I know appearance is important (well, nearly everything ) with you! So, although regular hex head bolts would be fine functionally, my suggestion is "button head bolts". You will keep the round shape that carriage bolts have with just the small hex socket in the center.
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Yes Tom that is a good idea as the holes will be very simple, unless i decide to get "fancy" and do a recessed cap screw.....but i think i will go with a bright stainless screw. You know...for looks! I got the steel the other day, about $12. I was on the fence about thicker....taller..but i just did not feel i wanted the extra weight. Dave
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The shock will then transfer up thought the bolt and push off the very strap its try to keep on. IDK. This only means one thing.......these blades will not see the light of day! I decided that as soon as u said "scratch the paint" Forget it.....NOT WORTH IT!
on your opening post.I painted mine yellow.Now I'm thinking i should have stayed black or went with 935 
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