Mowing problem with my 1572
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Mowing problem with my 1572
Ok so ive mowed a few times with my 1572 and 44c deck. I really dont like the way it cuts. Its leaving wind rows and if you get into tall stuff it just nocks it down, instead of cutting it. I replaced the original blades with newer blads, no better, then switched to gators and still no better.
questions
1 it seems as if the deck isnt turning fast enough, maybe the slower rpms of the diesel?
2 Could I put my 42 inch deck under it from my 106 and change the center pully to take the wider belt of the 82 series? That deck has always cut so well.
questions
1 it seems as if the deck isnt turning fast enough, maybe the slower rpms of the diesel?
2 Could I put my 42 inch deck under it from my 106 and change the center pully to take the wider belt of the 82 series? That deck has always cut so well.
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Re: Mowing problem with my 1572
I think I got it. I took the double stacked pully off the 44c and put it on the 42. If this wroks it will be great as then I canuse my PECO vac on it in the fall.
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Re: Mowing problem with my 1572
Are you sure the engine is turning the correct rpms? My diesels mowed fine with their 44" decks.
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Re: Mowing problem with my 1572
My 1572 also mows fine with the 44c and 50c decks. Is the deck belt slipping maybe?
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Re: Mowing problem with my 1572
Vince, maybe you should sell me that 1512 you exported out of Georgia to buy some parts.
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Re: Mowing problem with my 1572
Vince,put a 42" cast end deck under it and all will be good.
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Re: Mowing problem with my 1572
Well no Im not sure its running at the right RPM's, but it sounds good, and Ive heard a lot of them.
Id bet the farm on the belt not slipping sause the wind row and the stuff that dosnt get cut is between the left blade and center.
I really want the 42 on the tractor so I can run the peco vac. Tomorrow Ill swap the sub frames and see how it dose.
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Id bet the farm on the belt not slipping sause the wind row and the stuff that dosnt get cut is between the left blade and center.
I really want the 42 on the tractor so I can run the peco vac. Tomorrow Ill swap the sub frames and see how it dose.
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Re: Mowing problem with my 1572
Just a thought. Are you mowing at full throttle. Or the belt tensioner on the deck belt is not working properly.
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Re: Mowing problem with my 1572
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I did thin about the tensioner but I cant figure out why it would be just on those 2 blades. You think if the dec belt was slipping it would be leaving 2 windrows under the deck. Yes i use it at full throtal and thats another reason I like the 42 deck cause when it was on the 106 I would get a nice cut at full or at half throtal did seem to mater. No I dont mow at half but there are some places that I cut the eng speed back so I dont tear everything up
I did thin about the tensioner but I cant figure out why it would be just on those 2 blades. You think if the dec belt was slipping it would be leaving 2 windrows under the deck. Yes i use it at full throtal and thats another reason I like the 42 deck cause when it was on the 106 I would get a nice cut at full or at half throtal did seem to mater. No I dont mow at half but there are some places that I cut the eng speed back so I dont tear everything up
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Re: Mowing problem with my 1572
You might look at the groove in the pulleys as well, I have seen pulleys worn out and the belt is running in the bottom of the pulley. The V belt works like a wedge, and is wedged into the pulley and when the groove in the pulley gets a lot of ware, the belt runs in the bottom and belt will slip.
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Re: Mowing problem with my 1572
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I didnt think about that! Now I could see that being a problem
Also i stole this 1512 from Todd, rumor has it he was calling about it when I was putting it on the trailer
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I didnt think about that! Now I could see that being a problem
Also i stole this 1512 from Todd, rumor has it he was calling about it when I was putting it on the trailer
Ive been known to sneek into other peoples areas to get stuff!
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Re: Mowing problem with my 1572
Vince,
you probably have plenty of ideas to check but I would look at the engine RPMs. The diesel should run 3600 just like the gassers do.
you probably have plenty of ideas to check but I would look at the engine RPMs. The diesel should run 3600 just like the gassers do.
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Re: Mowing problem with my 1572
Todd how would I hook up a Tiny tack to the diesel the find the rpm's?
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Re: Mowing problem with my 1572
Glue one of these to the valve pan cover.vince_o wrote:Todd how would I hook up a Tiny tack to the diesel the find the rpm's?
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Re: Mowing problem with my 1572
What do you do stic the recflective tape to something and it reads it?
Jim Frank had one of those and a tinny tac.
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Re: Mowing problem with my 1572
Vince,
You do realize that all deck drive pulleys (the part the PTO belt connects to) are not the same size, and except for the K series engines, all the PTO clutch pulleys may not be the same size. The pulleys are sized to provide a given blade speed on a given deck used on a given tractor/engine. Example: I had a 1641 (B&S Vangard engine) that had a 50" deck that was too big for my use. I bought a 44" deck from BB that came off a 18XX ( Kohler M18 engine I think), and in operation the blade speed was just short of tractor lift off speed. The problem was the PTO pulley on the Vangard was larger in diameter than what was on the Kohler and over sped the small drive pulley on the deck. Since the 44" deck was an option on the 1641, I was able to get the correct deck pulley (larger in diameter) to use the 44' deck on that tractor. That may be your problem, the ratio between the PTO and deck pulley is not correct and the deck is turning slower, rather than faster as in my case. You might have to do some P/N research. According to "Hank's" book, the 1572 came with a 50" or 60" deck, so if you have the 50" deck, measure the diameter of the drive pulley and see if it is the same as the drive pulley on the 44C" you are using.
You do realize that all deck drive pulleys (the part the PTO belt connects to) are not the same size, and except for the K series engines, all the PTO clutch pulleys may not be the same size. The pulleys are sized to provide a given blade speed on a given deck used on a given tractor/engine. Example: I had a 1641 (B&S Vangard engine) that had a 50" deck that was too big for my use. I bought a 44" deck from BB that came off a 18XX ( Kohler M18 engine I think), and in operation the blade speed was just short of tractor lift off speed. The problem was the PTO pulley on the Vangard was larger in diameter than what was on the Kohler and over sped the small drive pulley on the deck. Since the 44" deck was an option on the 1641, I was able to get the correct deck pulley (larger in diameter) to use the 44' deck on that tractor. That may be your problem, the ratio between the PTO and deck pulley is not correct and the deck is turning slower, rather than faster as in my case. You might have to do some P/N research. According to "Hank's" book, the 1572 came with a 50" or 60" deck, so if you have the 50" deck, measure the diameter of the drive pulley and see if it is the same as the drive pulley on the 44C" you are using.
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Re: Mowing problem with my 1572
Vince,
Tiny Tach makes a diesel version but it's designed for permanent installation. So your best best would be a photo tach with the reflective tape as Bryan suggested.
Tiny Tach makes a diesel version but it's designed for permanent installation. So your best best would be a photo tach with the reflective tape as Bryan suggested.
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Re: Mowing problem with my 1572
Well Paul I did read a post you had replied to about that problem. I didnt know the 1512 didnt use a 44 deck, I just figured its an 82 so................... Ill have to check that out. I have a Mag 18 out of the supper still on the bench, Ill measure the differance. I put the smaller pully on the 42 inch deck Sat, but now need to get a belt.
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