Kohler M20
Posted: Sat Jul 08, 2017 8:19 am
All right guys...I need some serious help. The engine spec number is 49623 and its on my Cub 2082. Its original and I dont know how many hours are on it because hour meter doesnt work. It stopped working with ~800 hours on it.
Problem Statement:
Tractor starts fine, runs for 4-7 mins fine, when PTO engaged for mower deck or runs longer the engine continues to heat up the engine starts to stutter (chug/surge) and will then only run with the choke on, then I limp back to the barn.
Diagnosis:
I fingure its either Fuel or Ignition related
Background (what I have done so far):
Fuel:
-Cleaned carb twice, 120psi air, small metal wire, adjusted float, ultrasonic sink, all ports appeared clean and free flowing --> no change in performance
-Checked fuel filter, it is free flowing. I also removed the fuel filter and ran fuel direct to the fuel pump --> no change in performance
-checked fuel shutoff valves - they are both open.
-One remaining item is to check fuel line from tank to fuel filter however when I turned over the engine with the carb removed an adequate amount of fuel from the
fuel line to the carb (which was removed at the time) appeared to be flowing (although I did not measure the flow rate)
-I only run 91 octane (no ethanol) and it is fresh in the tank. Tank appears to be clean
-Purchased new after market carb from iSavetractors.com (nice guy) -->no change in performance
-Disassembled fuel pump, diaphragm is supple, seals are tight, internal check valves are functioning and tight, it is clean
Ignition:
-Plugs are 9 months old, a bit sooty (indicating a rich mixture) but generally clean and gapped properly
-I thought the ingnition module may be going bad so I got (for free) a used one from a local tractor repair man and replaced (what a pain), it is gapped properly at
0.010" -->no change in performance
Other:
-Engine compression test was ~100psi per cylinder, did not do a pressure drop test.
My pride is hurt (insert tear) -- Im going to check the fuel line from the tank to the filter today. I suspect nothing will change. Next step is to check back with the post and see what ideas ya'll might have. Final step is take it to a professional repair shop (this is the hurt pride part) although Im not confident they will fix it.
Of note: I did find a post that described these exact symptoms. A bunch of folks were on the post, in one case there was a clogged fuel line, in one case the carb had an internal plugged port and in one case a guy had a warped head....hoping its not the last.
Any help you can provide would be greatly appreciated.
Nate
Problem Statement:
Tractor starts fine, runs for 4-7 mins fine, when PTO engaged for mower deck or runs longer the engine continues to heat up the engine starts to stutter (chug/surge) and will then only run with the choke on, then I limp back to the barn.
Diagnosis:
I fingure its either Fuel or Ignition related
Background (what I have done so far):
Fuel:
-Cleaned carb twice, 120psi air, small metal wire, adjusted float, ultrasonic sink, all ports appeared clean and free flowing --> no change in performance
-Checked fuel filter, it is free flowing. I also removed the fuel filter and ran fuel direct to the fuel pump --> no change in performance
-checked fuel shutoff valves - they are both open.
-One remaining item is to check fuel line from tank to fuel filter however when I turned over the engine with the carb removed an adequate amount of fuel from the
fuel line to the carb (which was removed at the time) appeared to be flowing (although I did not measure the flow rate)
-I only run 91 octane (no ethanol) and it is fresh in the tank. Tank appears to be clean
-Purchased new after market carb from iSavetractors.com (nice guy) -->no change in performance
-Disassembled fuel pump, diaphragm is supple, seals are tight, internal check valves are functioning and tight, it is clean
Ignition:
-Plugs are 9 months old, a bit sooty (indicating a rich mixture) but generally clean and gapped properly
-I thought the ingnition module may be going bad so I got (for free) a used one from a local tractor repair man and replaced (what a pain), it is gapped properly at
0.010" -->no change in performance
Other:
-Engine compression test was ~100psi per cylinder, did not do a pressure drop test.
My pride is hurt (insert tear) -- Im going to check the fuel line from the tank to the filter today. I suspect nothing will change. Next step is to check back with the post and see what ideas ya'll might have. Final step is take it to a professional repair shop (this is the hurt pride part) although Im not confident they will fix it.
Of note: I did find a post that described these exact symptoms. A bunch of folks were on the post, in one case there was a clogged fuel line, in one case the carb had an internal plugged port and in one case a guy had a warped head....hoping its not the last.
Any help you can provide would be greatly appreciated.
Nate